career memo Mar 22, 2018

CAREER MEMO: How To Tell If Your Outfit Is Office-Appropriate


Today, I’m so thrilled to kick off a new series here on Memorandum, one that has been requested daily by many of you for YEARS—a dive into career advice from my early days working on Wall Street to my experiences today running both a fashion tech startup and a fashion blog in New York City.  To kick things off, I wanted to start by discussing a challenge that every working woman faces at some point in her career—how to tell if something is office-appropriate.  Given Memorandum’s roots in workwear, we thought this would be the perfect place to start!


Did she say “we?”


Yes, yes she did.


In addition to sharing my own career tips and anecdotes, I thought it would be even better to have my friend Lauren McGoodwin join the conversation as well.  If you don’t know Lauren, she is the founder of the incredible site Career Contessa where she and her team offer invaluable career tips and resources for working women.  Lauren and I became fast friends after meeting over a year ago when we did a webinar together for her site and I’ve been dying to find a way to bring her amazing advice to Memorandum readers ever since.  


In this Career Memo series, Lauren and I will be discussing all sorts of job-related challenges that working women face.  Since no two work environments are exactly the same and there’s no one formula for the perfect career path, I wanted this series to be collaborative and conversational with someone whose opinions I truly respect.    


When it comes to today’s topic—figuring out what’s appropriate to wear to work—there’s definitely no one-size-fits-all uniform.  Nevertheless, as you’ll read below, Lauren and I agree that there’s a universal approach that everyone can take regardless of whether you’re a grade school teacher in Albuquerque, an an accountant in Chicago or an attorney in NYC.



MEET LAUREN!

MARY:  Lauren, I’m so excited to collaborate on these posts!  When thinking about sharing career advice and discussing job-related challenges, I knew there would be no better wing-woman than YOU, the queen of career advice!  For readers who don’t know you already (shame on them) can you tell us a little bit about your professional background and how you came to start Career Contessa?


LAUREN:  I live in Los Angeles, and before beginning Career Contessa in 2013, I worked for many years as a corporate recruiter for Hulu. And before that I was working as an assistant, desperate to try something else. So, I’ve been on both sides of the hiring table and I’m obsessed with helping women build successful careers on their terms. My career advice has been featured in Forbes, Fast Company, Huffington Post, Business Insider, Entrepreneur, etc. and I’m thrilled to have the opportunity to talk about my favorite topic with Memorandum readers!


HOW TO TELL IF SOMETHING IS OFFICE APPROPRIATE

M:  Ok, so needless to say, when it comes to career advice, you’ve got #ExpertStatus.  So let’s dive into today’s topic, shall we? The perpetual workwear quandary of how to determine what’s appropriate for your office.  I think this question is particularly scary and stressful when you’re just starting your career or just beginning a new job and you haven’t yet had the chance to scope out what your colleagues are wearing every day.  Where does one start?


L:  Starting a new job can be scary—what will it be like!?—and an added stressor is the inevitable question of what to wear on your first day of work. Nowadays, workplaces vary more than ever, which means it’s not always the norm that corporate attire is the way to go. However, there are universal ways to approach this challenge to alleviate your first-day jitters and narrow down your sartorial selection.



WHAT TO WEAR TO THE INTERVIEW

M:  I absolutely agree. While there is definitely no dress code across industries, there’s a lot you can do to identify what’s appropriate.  Most frequently, I get asked about what to wear to an interview, and I always advise people to (1) do as much research online as possible; (2) ask friends who work in similar industries about what they wear to work; and (3) when in doubt, OVERDRESS.  


L: I completely agree with your ideas! When I worked in tech where we had a very casual dress code, I loved to see interviewees dress up a bit more. You don’t have the job yet so make sure you’re still in that “dress to impress” stage. If you’re interviewing in a more creative field like fashion, they’ll often want to see that you fit their “vibe” or culture. For example, I had a friend recruit at Tory Burch back in the day and they totally expected the interviewees to dress similar to the Tory Burch style. For those more creative fields it’s another way of saying “I’m truly a brand ambassador of this company.”



BEFORE YOU START


M:  I completely agree.  If you’re working in fashion or any creative field, your appearance should reflect that you have a demonstrable interest in fashion and creativity!  But let’s shift gears here. Let’s say you’ve aced the interview and landed the dream job. How do you suggest people approach dressing for the first days of a new job?  It’s so important to make a good first impression!


L:  Long before your first day,  there are a few tricks that you can use to help figure out the dress code. The key is to be observant.  If you have an in-office interview, take note of what the interviewer is wearing. Is she super dressed up on a Friday? If so, it’s probably safe to assume that the company expects traditional corporate attire. Before your interview, when you’re walking into the building itself, make mental notes of what other employees are wearing, too. That being said, if everyone is wearing jeans, it might still be best to wait until after your first few days to follow suit (pun intended!).  


It’s also a good idea to check the company’s social media accounts for outfit inspiration. Does the company post pictures of events on Facebook or Instagram? What about photos on Glassdoor or on company profile sites? Scroll through those feeds to see if you can find any photos with employees, and take note of their clothing.


Finally, if you are still in doubt, check with HR or recruiting. Call or email your hiring contact and ask if there is a specific dress code for the company or if she can give you an overview of the typical attire.


M:  I couldn’t agree more.  I think it’s always a good idea to be a little more dressy during those critical first days when you’re meeting people for the first time.  I have to say, I love your recommendation about stalking those company social media accounts! Ahhhh technology. I would also absolutely not be shy about emailing HR or one of your female interviewers asking what people wear to the office.  When I worked on Wall Street I had several new hires email me before they started to ask for advice on what women typically wore in our office and I thought it was a great question! It showed me that the new hires were excited about their first day and taking it seriously.



THE FIRST FEW DAYS

M:  Now, many people think that once you’ve landed the job, the tough part is over, but I think your first week or two on the job requires special attention.  How do you think this period should be approached?


L:  It has been said time and again, but it is always best to err on the side of being overdressed. This is true even if you are working in a more casual environment.  Studies actually prove that it is better to overdress, as your attire can affect your confidence level and the way others perceive you. Since your first week is all about setting great impressions, you want to feel your best!


During those first few days, watch how top people in the office dress, taking cues from women in management, and err on the side of “dress for the job you want.”  If you feel overdressed on your first day, no worries—just adjust your outfit for the next day.


M:  Amen!  I think it’s important to note that at this point in your job, you have limited ways to send strong, positive messages to your boss and your colleagues.  Since it’s your first few days, you haven’t had the chance yet to prove how brilliant you are or how amazing you are at the actual job. Instead, you have to send those messages in other ways and presenting yourself well is a huge part of that. Set a great first impression by showing up early, reaching out to introduce yourself to colleagues, asking thoughtful questions and dressing your best.


THE COMING MONTHS

M:  Once those first few weeks are in the rear-view mirror, what should women keep in mind about office attire?


L:  As time passes and you settle into your new position, you’ll start to get more comfortable with the company culture. This is when you can switch things up—within reason. Your early observations (and that phase where you erred on the side of overdressed) will help you choose outfits that adhere to company dress guidelines but still express your personality. So go ahead, throw a bold-hued scarf in there. You’ve earned it.


M:  I absolutely agree!  Now that everyone knows you and you’ve established yourself as a strong member of the team, you can absolutely get more creative with your work wardrobe.  However, the biggest problem I’ve sometimes seen after one gets comfortable in their role is the steady decline of their attire—especially when it comes to office appropriateness.  For example, let’s say you work in a business formal work environment and  start rationalizing black jeans instead of more professional black wool pants.  Before you know it, those black jeans become black leggings “just this once because I wasn’t feeling great this morning!”  You want to make sure you don’t start down this slippery slope because although you convince yourself that nobody cares, it absolutely sends a signal.  So, I think it’s always important to stay true to those early assessments of what’s appropriate at your workplace.  As long as you do that, you’ll be golden!


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13 Responses to CAREER MEMO: How To Tell If Your Outfit Is Office-Appropriate

  1. This is a great post. I actually was preparing to start a new job in the upcoming month and was thinking how I never know the right moment when to ask about outfits appropriate at the job. You have many great suggestions. I love the one about stalking those company social media accounts. That is such a 21st century move. REALLY smart. As well as emailing HR or one of your female interviewers asking what people wear to the office, never thought of that as an option.

    Cant agree more “dress for the job you want” is always great strategy

  2. Natali says:

    Classy, feminine and absolutely killer workwear outfit! 🙂

    https://lartoffashion.com

  3. Simply Sory says:

    Mary, buenísimo el post de hoy. Me servirá mucho en mis próximos proyectos.

    Nuevo post, último look de invierno.
    http://www.simplysory.com/2018/03/22/abrigo-gris-ultimo-look-invierno/

  4. Samantha says:

    I am loving this new career advice section! Can’t wait to read more 🙂

    http://www.stylebysamantha.com

  5. Catherine W. says:

    Mary, i would love for you to revisit the very humorous post you did on what not to wear in the office from your Classy Cubicle blog!

  6. I LOVE this post! When I first got my professional job while being a college student, I immediately turned to your blog to find inspiration, and this is the icing on the already perfect cake! I really appreciate how you added the question about the first few weeks being in the rearview mirror and still trying to figure out how to dress on the daily. Such useful content! I am so excited for this series.

  7. For me, when deciding if an outfit is office appropriate, I consider three things:

    (1) Am I exposing chest vs. flesh? The chest is office appropriate while fleshy mounds or cleavage aren’t to me.

    (2) How much thigh am I exposing? Just above the knee is just right for me, but mid-thigh, not so much.

    (3) How is my rearview displayed? If a skirt or bottom is so tight that it creates “smiley” lines across the front or my skirt or dress and/or curves under my bum in the back, I wouldn’t dream of wearing that to the office.

    These three questions have served me well. 🙂

  8. Chrissy says:

    The best advice I was ever given when I was trying to build my career and get on the up and up was;

    ‘dress for the job you want not the job you have’

  9. Kimberly says:

    Maybe this goes without saying…Tidiness is the MOST important aspect of your attire no matter how stylistically similar your outfit is to colleagues or potential employers. Fit is a close second. If everyone is wearing dress pants and blouses and you show up in oversized poorly fitting pants and a wrinkled blouse it would have been better to wear appropriately fitting black jeans and a sweater. I’ve passed on otherwise acceptable candidates for one who understands the importance of presentation. If you can’t look presentable in this critical situation why would I assume you understand the importance of your job and take your role seriously? Seriously wrinkled clothes make you unhirable.

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  12. Hannah says:

    Do you have any recommendations for a versatile, but still work appropriate, sweater or jacket to keep at the office? I am looking for something that I can keep at the office and layer if needed. Thanks!

  13. Patricia says:

    Great post. Can you send info on what dress and jacket you are wearing? Sorry if I missed it…

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